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Sometimes you need them.

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The first thing that comes to mind is silver hydrosol. Treat wounds, inhalation and orally. I have great faith in it and have some on hand...always. Sovereign Silver is the one I use. The medical profession is coating catheters etc with it to prevent infections... It has been shown to be effective agains some drug resistent infections but MDs are slow to use it, preferring the 'safe' methods of strong antibiotics that kill off good bacteria in the gut..all kinds of secondary problems arise from the use of antibiotics.


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Prahudka wrote:
Sometimes you need them.

What are the alternatives?



Colloidal silver----easy to use, easy to make. Don't worry about turning blue unless you are planning on just about drowning yourself with it. If CS is prepared properly, and it is easy to do, there are virtually no side effects. A good article is: WWW.silverpuppy.com/drclarknews.html

I have been making it and taking it for about a year now and I swear by it.


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Agree, and let's not forget Vit D. It's found to be so beneficial in so many areas of health. The Vit D Counsel is recommending up to 5000 u. daily. Which is what I take, and my level is only in the low 70's so I'm where I think I should be. Every one is different, if you take the higher doses have your level checked at MD visits. If you have your skin in the sun much of the time I'd think you could reduce the dose accordingly. In addition you can take it daily or monthly...easy. (Do your own research) :think:


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Most of the substitutes work well topically.

I have treated cuts very successfully with half dollars and honey.

Honey really seems to promote fast healing.

I am quite sure that there are many benefits in a number of things:

oregano oil
colloidal silver
hydrogen peroxide
sodium chlorite

The problem is acute infection for which oral antibiotics are usually given.

This other stuff frankly doesn't seem to get it done with most people. There is the odd miracle story, but they are odd.

Post SHTF, there will be unhealthy people needing a treatment. What is a good broad spectrum antibiotic than can attack things like pneumonia, sepsis, boils, etc?

Frankly, I am thinking of going to 1800petmeds to get some amoxocillin to put in the cellar.

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I've recently started taking Apple Cider Vinegar mixed with honey and water. My wife has to chug it but I like to sip it, I find it to be very refreshing. Haven't seen any good from it yet but only been taking it for a couple of weeks.


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There are many ways to deal with an infection. The use of antibiotics should be reserved for the acute necessary infections that are life threatening. But the most important thing to remember about the function of antibiotics is that they only decrease the bacterial load in the body, so your immune system has to finish the job in the end. Thus, having a healthy immune system is key. But the best is prevention by washing your hands, sleeping and eating well.

Then if you happen to get a bacterial infection, some of the most common natural methods are outlined below.

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Colloidal silver:

This is an excellent broad-spectrum anti-bacterial, anti-viral and anti-fungal. It has been known to help many other infections such as candida, parasites and other problems.
The general dosage is about 2-3 tablespoons per day for an adult for up to a week if it is a low potency product (15-50 parts per million of silver). One should take a lot less, about 1-3 teaspoons or less, if it is a higher potency product of over 50 parts per million of silver.

Bee propolis:

up to 50 drops three times a day for adults for up to 3 weeks.

High-dose vitamin A:

up to 150,000 iu per day for adults for up to two weeks

Vitamin C:

Two to four grams three or four times a day or more for a week or even two is safe for most people. If you take too much you will get diarrhea, a harmless side effect that just requires reducing the dosage. Taking it for too long, however, will lower copper and upset body chemistry in other ways, so limit high-dose vitamin C use for this reason, mainly. It is also extremely yin in Chinese medical terminology.


Colostrum:

This is the bluish first milk from a woman or an animal. It is sold in powder or capsule form. Follow directions on the bottle. It is quite harmless, however, if you take too much unless one is sensitive to dairy products.


Herbs:

Herbs have been used for centuries to help fight infections. The only problem with herbs is that one does not know their potency and some can be a little toxic. So be careful with herbs. The ones most recommended for most people are echinacea, golden seal and astragalus. Do not take herbs continuously. Use them like medicines, which they are. I do not recommend herbs first as they are not as consistent in quality as are the others above. However, they can be life-saving and are not costly at all in most instances.

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Even though herbs are not the first recommendation, they can be easily grown at home and made into tinctures etc. with a little bit of training.

Also, I have heard that vitamin D3 is really important for your immune system. WIth this it is best to have your blood levels at the higher level of normal, between 80-100 ng/ml.

Hope this helps.


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I forgot to add Sambucus anitviral otc liguid. Very good reputation, I've used it and/or had it on hand for years. Safe for kids btw. I'm stocking it with the other meds stuff. I remembered because I'm in the throes of a flu. MD says the s/s are atypical but couldn't pin it down as 'regualar' flu. I'm like a toddler when I get sick, NO! No! No! :whistle:


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Prahudka wrote:
Sometimes you need them.

What are the alternatives?


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.... I have treated cuts very successfully with half dollars and honey.

Honey really seems to promote fast healing. ....



Honey is the only food that does not spoil and I was taught that is because it contains natural antibiotics.

I also heard that when the ancient Persians came across the sort of horrendous battle wound that they did not know how to start to put together, they slathered the whole thing with honey and covered it with a plaster jacket similar to Plaster of Paris and left it on till the casualty recovered or died. Apparently they had quite a good success rate.

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Here is a research article out of Australia concerning the use of honey as an antibiotic for treating surface wounds. Also, the pharmaceutical companies are working on making honey products for treating MRSA infections. Which stands for methicillin resistant staphylcoccus aureus infections. Or another words antibiotic resistant bacterial infections. These are becoming really common in the community these days. They used to only exist in the hospital.

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Honey more effective than antibiotics
17. June 2009 20:51


In the first study of its kind University of Sydney researchers have found proof that some honeys can be more effective than antibiotics in treating surface wounds and infections.
Unlike antibiotics, which only work on some bacteria, the honeys worked on all of the infectious bugs tested, including one that was resistant to 13 different antibiotics. Critically, the bacteria did not adapt and develop resistance to the honey as they do with antibiotics.

The honeys tested by the researchers were variations of Manuka honey and jelly bush honey, from NZ and Australia respectively, both of which are currently available in medicinal versions, but are not widely used in hospitals.

"Most bacteria that cause infections in hospitals are resistant to at least one antibiotic, and there is an urgent need for new ways to treat and control surface infections," said Associate Professor Dee Carter, from the University of Sydney's School of Molecular and Microbial Biosciences. "New antibiotics tend to have short shelf lives, as the bacteria they attack quickly become resistant. Many large pharmaceutical companies have abandoned antibiotic production because of the difficulty of recovering costs. Developing effective alternatives could therefore save many lives.

"Our research is the first to clearly show that these honey-based products could in many cases replace antibiotic creams on wounds and equipment such as catheters. Using honey as an intermediate treatment could also prolong the life of antibiotics."

The common denominator in the honeys tested is that are produced by bees which feed on Leptospermum plants, commonly known as tea trees, found in native Australian and New Zealand bushes.

The honeys worked on pathogens known to have a high level of acquired and/or intrinsic resistance, including superbugs such as flesh-eating bacteria, or MRSA, said A/Professor Carter.

"We don't quite know how these honeys prevent and kill infections, but a compound in them called methylglyoxal seems to interact with a number of other unknown compounds in honey to prevent infectious bacteria developing new strains that are resistant to it."

The research has just been published online in the European Journal of Clinical Microbiology and Infectious Diseases, in a paper titled: The unusual antibacterial activity of medical-grade Leptospermum honey: antibacterial spectrum resistance and transcriptome analysis.

http://www.usyd.edu.au/


Also here the the medical honey product that is being manufactured


http://www.medicalhoney.com/
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Activon - medical + honey
Activon honey from Advancis Medical is not to be confused with other honeys and has been especially produced for application to wounds. Activon has unique properties and is produced in the medical Manuka honey program NZ. Even most other brands of Manuka honey are not suitable for wounds. It is illegal for clinicians to advocate the use of in-appropriate honey on wounds. Find out more about the medical + Manuka honey program.
Use only Activon medical+ honey for wounds. Medical+ honey is produced in produced from the nectar of Manuka flowers that only grow in New Zealand. It has a UMF – Unique Manuka Factor which measures its’ antibacterial strength. This is important in wound healing because other types of honey without this factor do not remain antibacterial in a wound environment for a prolonged period.
Activon is filtered, sterilised and controlled to ensure effective and safe application in wound management. Activon honey can rapidly cleanse yellow/black wounds, deodorise and promote fast wound healing. Find out more about how medical + honey can help wound healing
There is a misconception that honey is a traditional remedy with no scientific backing or evidence, however that has now changed, evidence is surfacing all the time that honey is a viable wound treatment therapy and is quickly being re-adopted into mainstream medical practice. Find out more about the science behind medical + Manuka honey


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(Is that the same as Sambucol?) It's the same product. I think there are similar out there so just look for the 'original' formula.


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I'd read this article last year about Norway's cutting down on antibiotics and how the number of staph infections have dropped dramatically. Underlining emphasis mine.

http://www.physorg.com/news181461239.html

Solution to killer superbug found in Norway
December 31, 2009 By MARTHA MENDOZA and MARGIE MASON , Associated Press Writers (AP) -- Aker University Hospital is a dingy place to heal. The floors are streaked and scratched. A light layer of dust coats the blood pressure monitors. A faint stench of urine and bleach wafts from a pile of soiled bedsheets dropped in a corner.

Look closer, however, at a microscopic level, and this place is pristine. There is no sign of a dangerous and contagious staph infection that killed tens of thousands of patients in the most sophisticated hospitals of Europe, North America and Asia this year, soaring virtually unchecked.

The reason: Norwegians stopped taking so many drugs.

Twenty-five years ago, Norwegians were also losing their lives to this bacteria. But Norway's public health system fought back with an aggressive program that made it the most infection-free country in the world. A key part of that program was cutting back severely on the use of antibiotics.

Now a spate of new studies from around the world prove that Norway's model can be replicated with extraordinary success, and public health experts are saying these deaths - 19,000 in the U.S. each year alone, more than from AIDS - are unnecessary.

"It's a very sad situation that in some places so many are dying from this, because we have shown here in Norway that Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) can be controlled, and with not too much effort," said Jan Hendrik-Binder, Oslo's MRSA medical adviser. "But you have to take it seriously, you have to give it attention, and you must not give up."

The World Health Organization says antibiotic resistance is one of the leading public health threats on the planet. A six-month investigation by The Associated Press found overuse and misuse of medicines has led to mutations in once curable diseases like tuberculosis and malaria, making them harder and in some cases impossible to treat.

Now, in Norway's simple solution, there's a glimmer of hope.

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Dr. John Birger Haug shuffles down Aker's scuffed corridors, patting the pocket of his baggy white scrubs. "My bible," the infectious disease specialist says, pulling out a little red Antibiotic Guide that details this country's impressive MRSA solution.


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It's what's missing from this book - an array of antibiotics - that makes it so remarkable.

"There are times I must show these golden rules to our doctors and tell them they cannot prescribe something, but our patients do not suffer more and our nation, as a result, is mostly infection free," he says.

Norway's model is surprisingly straightforward.

- Norwegian doctors prescribe fewer antibiotics than any other country, so people do not have a chance to develop resistance to them.

- Patients with MRSA are isolated and medical staff who test positive stay at home.

- Doctors track each case of MRSA by its individual strain, interviewing patients about where they've been and who they've been with, testing anyone who has been in contact with them.

Haug unlocks the dispensary, a small room lined with boxes of pills, bottles of syrups and tubes of ointment. What's here? Medicines considered obsolete in many developed countries. What's not? Some of the newest, most expensive antibiotics, which aren't even registered for use in Norway, "because if we have them here, doctors will use them," he says.

He points to an antibiotic. "If I treated someone with an infection in Spain with this penicillin I would probably be thrown in jail," he says, "and rightly so because it's useless there."

Norwegians are sanguine about their coughs and colds, toughing it out through low-grade infections.

"We don't throw antibiotics at every person with a fever. We tell them to hang on, wait and see, and we give them a Tylenol to feel better," says Haug.

Convenience stores in downtown Oslo are stocked with an amazing and colorful array - 42 different brands at one downtown 7-Eleven - of soothing, but non-medicated, lozenges, sprays and tablets. All workers are paid on days they, or their children, stay home sick. And drug makers aren't allowed to advertise, reducing patient demands for prescription drugs.

In fact, most marketing here sends the opposite message: "Penicillin is not a cough medicine," says the tissue packet on the desk of Norway's MRSA control director, Dr. Petter Elstrom.

He recognizes his country is "unique in the world and best in the world" when it comes to MRSA. Less than 1 percent of health care providers are positive carriers of MRSA staph.

But Elstrom worries about the bacteria slipping in through other countries. Last year almost every diagnosed case in Norway came from someone who had been abroad.

"So far we've managed to contain it, but if we lose this, it will be a huge problem," he said. "To be very depressing about it, we might in some years be in a situation where MRSA is so endemic that we have to stop doing advanced surgeries, things like organ transplants, if we can't prevent infections. In the worst case scenario we are back to 1913, before we had antibiotics."

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Forty years ago, a new spectrum of antibiotics enchanted public health officials, quickly quelling one infection after another. In wealthier countries that could afford them, patients and providers came to depend on antibiotics. Trouble was, the more antibiotics are consumed, the more resistant bacteria develop.

Norway responded swiftly to initial MRSA outbreaks in the 1980s by cutting antibiotic use. Thus while they got ahead of the infection, the rest of the world fell behind.

In Norway, MRSA has accounted for less than 1 percent of staph infections for years. That compares to 80 percent in Japan, the world leader in MRSA; 44 percent in Israel; and 38 percent in Greece.

In the U.S., cases have soared and MRSA cost $6 billion last year. Rates have gone up from 2 percent in 1974 to 63 percent in 2004. And in the United Kingdom, they rose from about 2 percent in the early 1990s to about 45 percent, although an aggressive control program is now starting to work.

About 1 percent of people in developed countries carry MRSA on their skin. Usually harmless, the bacteria can be deadly when they enter a body, often through a scratch. MRSA spreads rapidly in hospitals where sick people are more vulnerable, but there have been outbreaks in prisons, gyms, even on beaches. When dormant, the bacteria are easily detected by a quick nasal swab and destroyed by antibiotics.

Dr. John Jernigan at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said they incorporate some of Norway's solutions in varying degrees, and his agency "requires hospitals to move the needle, to show improvement, and if they don't show improvement they need to do more."

And if they don't?

"Nobody is accountable to our recommendations," he said, "but I assume hospitals and institutions are interested in doing the right thing."

Dr. Barry Farr, a retired epidemiologist who watched a successful MRSA control program launched 30 years ago at the University of Virginia's hospitals, blamed the CDC for clinging to past beliefs that hand washing is the best way to stop the spread of infections like MRSA. He says it's time to add screening and isolation methods to their controls.

The CDC needs to "eat a little crow and say, 'Yeah, it does work,'" he said. "There's example after example. We don't need another study. We need somebody to just do the right thing."

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But can Norway's program really work elsewhere?

The answer lies in the busy laboratory of an aging little public hospital about 100 miles outside of London. It's here that microbiologist Dr. Lynne Liebowitz got tired of seeing the stunningly low Nordic MRSA rates while facing her own burgeoning cases.

So she turned Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Kings Lynn into a petri dish, asking doctors to almost completely stop using two antibiotics known for provoking MRSA infections.

One month later, the results were in: MRSA rates were tumbling. And they've continued to plummet. Five years ago, the hospital had 47 MRSA bloodstream infections. This year they've had one.

"I was shocked, shocked," says Liebowitz, bouncing onto her toes and grinning as colleagues nearby drip blood onto slides and peer through microscopes in the hospital laboratory.

When word spread of her success, Liebowitz's phone began to ring. So far she has replicated her experiment at four other hospitals, all with the same dramatic results.

"It's really very upsetting that some patients are dying from infections which could be prevented," she says. "It's wrong."

Around the world, various medical providers have also successfully adapted Norway's program with encouraging results. A medical center in Billings, Mont., cut MRSA infections by 89 percent by increasing screening, isolating patients and making all staff - not just doctors - responsible for increasing hygiene.

In Japan, with its cutting-edge technology and modern hospitals, about 17,000 people die from MRSA every year.

Dr. Satoshi Hori, chief infection control doctor at Juntendo University Hospital in Tokyo, says doctors overprescribe antibiotics because they are given financial incentives to push drugs on patients.

Hori now limits antibiotics only to patients who really need them and screens and isolates high-risk patients. So far his hospital has cut the number of MRSA cases by two-thirds.

In 2001, the CDC approached a Veterans Affairs hospital in Pittsburgh about conducting a small test program. It started in one unit, and within four years, the entire hospital was screening everyone who came through the door for MRSA. The result: an 80 percent decrease in MRSA infections. The program has now been expanded to all 153 VA hospitals, resulting in a 50 percent drop in MRSA bloodstream infections, said Dr. Robert Muder, chief of infectious diseases at the VA Pittsburgh Healthcare System.

"It's kind of a no-brainer," he said. "You save people pain, you save people the work of taking care of them, you save money, you save lives and you can export what you learn to other hospital-acquired infections."

Pittsburgh's program has prompted all other major hospital-acquired infections to plummet as well, saving roughly $1 million a year.

"So, how do you pay for it?" Muder asked. "Well, we just don't pay for MRSA infections, that's all."

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Beth Reimer of Batavia, Ill., became an advocate for MRSA precautions after her 5-week-old daughter Madeline caught a cold that took a fatal turn. One day her beautiful baby had the sniffles. The next?

"She wasn't breathing. She was limp," the mother recalled. "Something was terribly wrong."

MRSA had invaded her little lungs. The antibiotics were useless. Maddie struggled to breathe, swallow, survive, for two weeks.

"For me to sit and watch Madeline pass away from such an aggressive form of something, to watch her fight for her little life - it was too much," Reimer said.

Since Madeline's death, Reimer has become outspoken about the need for better precautions, pushing for methods successfully used in Norway. She's stunned, she said, that anyone disputes the need for change.

"Why are they fighting for this not to take place?" she said.


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When you're stacking med supplies include a portable nebulizer. You can use silver in it as well as other meds/products. Especially useful if you or family members have an already existing resp. condition or is prone to colds, pneu. etc..Would be valuable in certain situations where an MD or hospital was unavailable.


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Anti-bio-tics

Anti-bio is against life. It is not good to help the body fight anything off, it only weakens everything. I do not take antibiotics and I believe I never will.

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Got a tick bite. Very swollen and red. The herbals and other herbal remedies really did very little.

Going to go to a doctor that won't bust my chops on drawing blood, will score some doxycycline, will take the usual course and bank the rest.

These would be the first pills I have taken in years. ;

Left over Amoxocillin killed the swelling from the bit pretty quickly when silver, rife, poutices only seemed to be managing it.

If I could, I would buy a big bottle of canadian pharma pills and put them away for something bad like this.

Lots of the other stuff we are talking about are pretty good for viruses. Viruses often are underlying indications of weakened immune, poor circulation.

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.... Viruses often are underlying indications of weakened immune, poor circulation.


And allow bacterial infection(s) to propagate. Which was found to be the actual killer of most of those who died of "complications" from the Non-Piggy Pig Flu this past season.

I'm a big supporter of EIS / CS too.
I'd add to a health kit H2O2 ( Hydrogen Peroxide) and Iodine for cleaning out minor lacerations, and abrasions. H2O2 is also good for mouth and gum care.

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When you're stacking med supplies include a portable nebulizer. You can use silver in it as well as other meds/products. Especially useful if you or family members have an already existing resp. condition or is prone to colds, pneu. etc..Would be valuable in certain situations where an MD or hospital was unavailable.


I have COPD and have been using CS via nebulizer for 3 months now and have seen a marked improvement. Use it for 10 minutes a couple of times a day.


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(Got a tick bite. Very swollen and red. The herbals and other herbal remedies really did very little)

If the tick bite had a red 'halo' around it you need to ask your MD for (I think) Cipro to avoid Lymes disease. The 'halo' is the indicator for Lyme infection. The tiny deer tick carries the Lymes bacteria, they are not the larger 'dog' ticks.

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